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Suzuki fine tuners

Post by StVitus » Thu May 18, 2017 6:18 am

I ordered a pack of Suzuki fine tuners to try out on my instruments. I’ve tried installing them as seen on this old photo from earlier posts: http://www.hacklemanshop.com/uploads/1/ ... ig.jpg?302

I find that the screw is hard to turn that the tuners are useless. The tuners I bought are Andre Breton branded Chinese tuners. Do Wittner tuners work better? Or is this another one of those internet ideas that doesn’t actually work?

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Re: Suzuki fine tuners

Post by barend » Thu May 18, 2017 8:26 am

I had these same sort of violin fine tuners (probably another brand) on my sitar chikari strings near the tuning pegs some years ago but never really liked them. So I took them off. I don't really need them.

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Re: Suzuki fine tuners

Post by rex@sitar.co.za » Sat May 20, 2017 10:25 pm

StVitus wrote:
Thu May 18, 2017 6:18 am
Do Wittner tuners work better? Or is this another one of those internet ideas that doesn’t actually work?
I use Wittner tuners on my Hiren Roy and absolutely swear by them.
In my opinion Wittner's should comes standard on all sitar - the improvement the make to tunability and tuning stability is immeasurable.
I wish someone had told me about this when I first started learning sitar 30 years ago!

I haven't used Andre Breton tuners, but my guess is they're junk?

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Re: Suzuki fine tuners

Post by StVitus » Sat May 20, 2017 11:42 pm

Do you know if the Wittner tuners are made in Germany? Before I spend more money on these I want to be sure that Wittner isn’t selling rebranded Chinese tuners like everyone else.

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Re: Suzuki fine tuners

Post by barend » Sat May 20, 2017 11:50 pm

rex@sitar.co.za wrote:
Sat May 20, 2017 10:25 pm
I use Wittner tuners on my Hiren Roy and absolutely swear by them.
In my opinion Wittner's should comes standard on all sitar - the improvement the make to tunability and tuning stability is immeasurable.
I wish someone had told me about this when I first started learning sitar 30 years ago!
Any pictures or videos of these tuners on sitar? Never heard of those.

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Re: Suzuki fine tuners

Post by rex@sitar.co.za » Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:30 am

You can get them here, they cost almost nothing:

https://www.violins.ca/accessories/fine_tuners.html

100% German engineered - not rebranded and smooth as butter.

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Re: Suzuki fine tuners

Post by StVitus » Mon Jun 05, 2017 6:42 am

Thanks, I’ll order a set of those.

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Re: Suzuki fine tuners

Post by gillo » Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:08 am

rex@sitar.co.za wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:30 am
You can get them here, they cost almost nothing:

https://www.violins.ca/accessories/fine_tuners.html

100% German engineered - not rebranded and smooth as butter.
Thanks for the link, which exact model do you use? I have used the Suzuki model which mount on the string but I think most of the others are built into the instrument (correct me if I'm wrong).

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Re: Suzuki fine tuners

Post by barend » Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:32 am

rex@sitar.co.za wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:30 am
You can get them here, they cost almost nothing:

https://www.violins.ca/accessories/fine_tuners.html

100% German engineered - not rebranded and smooth as butter.
Are those the ones you use (Suzuki). I thought you were using the Wittner tuners? I would like to see those in action. Not fond of the Susuki type tuners.

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Re: Suzuki fine tuners

Post by rex@sitar.co.za » Sat Jun 10, 2017 3:24 pm

"Suzuki" is just a style of fine tuner: It clips on to the string.
"Wittner" is a manufacturer that makes them.

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Re: Suzuki fine tuners

Post by rex@sitar.co.za » Sat Jun 10, 2017 3:25 pm

gillo wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:08 am
Thanks for the link, which exact model do you use? I have used the Suzuki model which mount on the string but I think most of the others are built into the instrument (correct me if I'm wrong).
You want the "Suzuki model", which is made by Wittner.

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Re: Suzuki fine tuners

Post by barend » Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:52 pm

rex@sitar.co.za wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2017 3:24 pm
"Suzuki" is just a style of fine tuner: It clips on to the string.
"Wittner" is a manufacturer that makes them.
To make it even more confusing I thought you meant these. On the bottom of the page Wittner fine tuners for oriental instrument including 'setar'.
http://www.wittner-gmbh.de/feinstimmwirbel_e.html

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Re: Suzuki fine tuners

Post by gillo » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:47 am

rex@sitar.co.za wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2017 3:25 pm

You want the "Suzuki model", which is made by Wittner.
Thanks for the clarification. I have used these from time to time (usually just on the high Sa chickari) but mostly I forget about them as my instruments seem to be quite stable for tuning and adjustments work with the pegs and applying slight string pressure.

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Re: Suzuki fine tuners

Post by westsea » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:49 am

You can make your Suzuki fine tuners very cool and stealth by using degreaser and gun bluing.
(Thanks to Scott Hackleman for the idea).
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