How (not) to play a Dagar Veena

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How (not) to play a Dagar Veena

Postby RobertMaya » Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:35 am

Well, the title was a joke, as this master seems to manage just fine. I don't know why anyone would play veena in this manner, as I think his chikari strokes (and strokes in general) don't sounds as clean as they could and small movements result in small intonation mistakes. I was taken aback when I saw it, but seems like a cool thing to share.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1PQFWcoKSc

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Re: How (not) to play a Dagar Veena

Postby mahadev » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:25 am

I find this difficult to watch.
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Re: How (not) to play a Dagar Veena

Postby westsea » Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:08 pm

For those who feel the urge to criticize, please keep it constructive.

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Re: How (not) to play a Dagar Veena

Postby mahadev » Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:59 pm

Noted.
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Re: How (not) to play a Dagar Veena

Postby trippymonkey » Sun Apr 10, 2016 11:07 pm

Sorry but not pleased at all with this position. There's very good reason why we play this wonderful instrument like we do ....

Which year was this Dhrupad Mela clip as I've been there for more than a few years so this must have been later than midnight.

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Re: How (not) to play a Dagar Veena

Postby westsea » Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:51 am

There's very good reason why we play this wonderful instrument like we do ....

But Nick, some of us play it one way (traditional) and some of us play it another way (Dagar).
So, who is to say? This is a third way.
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Re: How (not) to play a Dagar Veena

Postby povster » Thu Apr 28, 2016 7:18 am

And even the traditional way has more than one playing position.
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Re: How (not) to play a Dagar Veena

Postby david » Thu Apr 28, 2016 2:06 pm

This is not unique. I have encountered this on more than one occasion. It seemed to be relatively common in the 19th century.

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Re: How (not) to play a Dagar Veena

Postby RobertMaya » Sun May 15, 2016 9:11 am

David,

I'm familiar with the squatting position that was used, but I'm not sure how you've seen this before as the dagar veena was only invented in the mid 20th century. Could you provide us with a picture or two?

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Re: How (not) to play a Dagar Veena

Postby david » Sun May 15, 2016 1:18 pm

The Rudra Vina has existed in some form for many centuries. The present form certainly represents an advance but, it is by no means a different instrument.

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Re: How (not) to play a Dagar Veena

Postby trippymonkey » Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:03 pm

OK a different position but why make it MORE difficult than it already is !?!?!? :wink: :roll:

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Re: How (not) to play a Dagar Veena

Postby RobertMaya » Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:17 pm

David, I disagree. The Dagar Veena could be easily called an advance, even though I do not prefer it to the traditional Been. Construction and size both contribute to a greater sound in both volume and tone, and it's easier to manage posture wise as opposed to the typical vajrasana stuff of the Mughal courts. This is just a plain unstable, unsustainable posture.

One of the beauties of this instrument is that it is meant to be worn, not held. It's a very deep personal thing, having the sound swirl in the toomba next to your ear. While I can understand that the Dagars needed to change the instrument to fit their wishes, I simply cannot fathom a reason why anyone would play like this. Again, the instability of the posture clearly messes with the intonation.


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