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Postby Sitarfixer » Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:21 pm

Greetings, all. I've put up some pics of the delicious Sarangi I have in my stable. Thought you might enjoy viewing ! Here's the link:
http://www.karaseksound.com/ShowBigPic.php?ID=IMG0084

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Postby OM GUY » Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:57 pm

Sitarfixer wrote:Greetings, all. I've put up some pics of the delicious Sarangi I have in my stable. Thought you might enjoy viewing ! Here's the link:
http://www.karaseksound.com/ShowBigPic.php?ID=IMG0084


Nice rich wood grains! Pray tell, from where did you obtain strings for this beauty?
Let's hope 2016 is less violent and that people discover the soothing influence of ICM. Hari OM!

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Postby Sitarfixer » Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:27 pm

Hey there, "Lawn Ranger" ! The gut strings I picked up in Delhi with the exception of the red first string. That is violin tailpiece tiedown cord - gut string of the highest quality. Pandit Ram Narain has it on his baby so when I saw a length of this stuff in a San Diego violin shop, I jumped on it.

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Postby peeceebee » Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:32 pm

Beautiful! I'd love to hear it- The leather in the reinforcing strap seems rather thick to me(?)

May I ask on what basis you estimate its age? I acquired a very nice sarangi which I intuitively estimate to date from the middle of the 20th century approximately based on its construction, but I have no basis for any accurate estimate- Also needed a reskin and several missing pegs fabricated.
Here's a picture of it-

http://peeceebee.lvha.net/sarangi_restored.jpg

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Postby pritlee » Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:51 pm

hey Sitarfixer....beautiful sarangi man, can i ask where did you get it from or who you got it from? any audio video clips we can enjoy....? who do i have to kill to get my hands on one of this......?

i am waiting for them to invent the time machine so the first thing i can/will do is to back in time and get few of them for me and terminate few people on my list.....

nuff said

pp

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Postby naad_brahma » Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:56 pm

I'm pretty sure that's a Masita sarangi, not a Behra, looks amazing. Love the roller skate type pegs in the headstock.

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Postby Sitarfixer » Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:03 am

Ahhhh ! News I can use ! ! ! Please tell me / us more about the earmarks of a Masita designed sarangi. I was going by what I was told that this was a Behra model. Found this in a Conneticut estate sale 15 - 20 years ago.

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Postby naad_brahma » Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:40 am

My understanding is that Masita usually had the bird in flight type of design as seen on yours. Behra used that and the addition of an upside-down heart with three dots. Naturally I'm sure there were other makers that may have used similar designs. I played a legitimate Masita that belongs to a friend in Jaipur and yours looks identical to it, even the color of the finish.

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Postby Sitarfixer » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:38 pm

Thank you, naad_brahma for the information regarding this sarangi. The other sarangi I have here has that inverted heart with the three dots. I'll make the necessary edits to my website. By the way, would you have a better estimate of the age of this instrument ??? Also, which makers instruments would be older, Behra or Masita ???

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Postby peeceebee » Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:47 pm

According to Joep Bor's book, Bhera was taught by Masita, so in general many Masita's might be expected to be somewhat older-

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Postby Sitarfixer » Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:42 am

" WOOOO HOOOOO " :!: :!: :!:

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Postby pritlee » Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:59 am

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symbol of Behra sarangi attached...i am sure most of you know about the symbol but apart from the symbol check out the finger board marking..... whoever owned and practiced on this sarangi must have done it for many hours a day for many decades for him/her to wear the wood down so deep..... its a shame sarangi players did not pay attention to or did not documents properly about the makers and how to etc.... and it seems its not being done now a days either...if it is than we are yet to hear about it..... teach whatever you know about sarangi to others that’s is one the main way we can keep the sarangi alive....god bless sarangi.


p.s: Masita maker lived from 1840-1920 so if we assume he started making them and perfected them at the age of 35 then your sarangi could be about 138 years old...or if we assume he made it in his last year of like then about 93 years old....but his Masita symbol was widely imitated so if this is the real deal (not saying it is not but we can never tell)....then your sarangi is between around 138 and 93 years old.....

Masita's disciple Abdul Aziz Behra made the most beautiful and solid instrument but unfortunately he died young and did not many instrument

all info came from the book Voice of the sarangi by Joep Bor :) so glad someone spent time and effor to gather the information.....

i am hoping and praying one day Mr Nicolas Magriel will write a book as he has had so many renowned sarangi teachers and some of whom are not alive and died with so much sarangi knowledge

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Postby ragamala » Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:32 pm

pritlee

Have you asked Nicolas about his doctorate thesis which is mouldering away, and whether this could be published for public appreciation? And have you asked him whether his incredible collection of recordings will remain within SOAS locked away forever?

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Postby david » Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:40 pm

Just another point about judging the age. I have read that the uppermost collection of pegs/resonating strings did not appear until the turn of the 20th century.
If this is true (and I am not in a position to say whether it is or is not true) then this instrument would have to have been manufactured after the introduction of this set.

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Postby DrKashyap » Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:45 pm

As it has been correctly stated, we have some basic problem of documentation so far as such topics are concerned

- We need to believe in the existence of the things beyond what is already documented ( read below)
- we need to collate all the information at one point.
- we dont have means to verify the information 'modified' through hearsay.

I had a very big sarangi ( called SarangA by famous performers ) with excessive number of the strings. - On talking/showing it to Pt. RamNarayan, U. SultanKhan & U. Abdul lateef khan, they all individually agreed on one point that it is (was) some 450+ yrs old, usually played with the Haveli sangeet by Vaishnav sect in olden days. Now there is hardly any mention in the available literature that sarangi appeared so much in the past. Another point was made clear by all these three stalwarts that during the stage of evolution, sarangi attained more number of strings & then it reduced to its current status. Unfortunately i lost that unique sarangA in the family. It was little big in length,very heavy, big in sound chamber size with one side of the sound chamber straight & another too much pinched(in fact separate piece of wood here).


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